The dudes discuss the LA Times piece on the “educational mess” we now find ourselves and what it will take to get back.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-03-23/post-pandemic-educational-mess

The guys also interview Dr. Leslie Fenwick who is the dean emeritus of Howard University’s School of Education, about HBCUs, supporting our students of color, and diversifying the teaching workforce across the country.